Wednesday, July 29, 2009
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009
My story
If you read my write-ups about this project and developer, it is not difficult to know that I am one of the very few purchasers who are optimistic about Bukit Ikhlas. Did Bukit Ikhlas give me any benefit for being optimistic? No, they don't.
I purchased the 3+1 unit back in December 2006, a month after I registered marriage with my wife, Abbie, and the wedding took place in March 2007. We were told that the house would be ready by end of 2007, we were happy to sign the S&P as we planned to move out of my parents' house after several months staying with them. By then, we could start our small family by adding a new member and more to come. We went for furniture shopping in mid of 2007, we paid 30% deposit to Haus, Lorenzo, Red Apple and several furniture shops for our new house furniture, we thought the house would be ready on time.
As time went by, December 2007 seemed to arrive earlier than we expected because we did not see much progress in the site. The actual showhouse had yet to be ready if I am not mistaken. Haus, Lorenzo and Red Apple called me several times to confirm the delivery of my furniture. I told them off saying that the house would be ready in no less than 6 months time. They said they would call me again after 6 months, I could do nothing but to agree with them.
What about my family planning? Undoubtedly we have to continue to 'suffer', to stay at my parents' place. Abbie doesn't have her own kitchen and study room, I still do not have an entertainment room, we do not have our own baby room too.
December 2008 has gone, December 2009 is a few months ahead. Looking at the timeframe, it has been about 3 years since I signed the S&P. The furniture shops had called me many times and I kept telling them that my house had not ready, I kept postponing the delivery. Lorenzo told me that the dining table that I ordered may get out of stock, but what can I do? Then they offered to allow me to choose from the available models by the time I am ready to collect it. Haus jokingly said that they would charge me 20% more for storage as my sofa was occupying their warehouse.
After two years of waiting for the house, I got really pissed off and frustrated, and I felt helpless too. I realized that frustration would not help any. I decided to change my plan at the end of 2008. My initial plan was to start family planning after I move in to Bayan Villa, but it seems possible to postpone my family planning any further, age won't stop and wait for the house to complete. Therefore I chose to start my family planning without having to get the house, we opt to move in together with our new-born baby by early of next year. By the way, my wife is pregnant now and she is expected to give birth of our baby by December 09, it could be a Christmas boy.
Many have asked me how I can be so optimistic about Bukit Ikhlas. Perhaps you would say I am born optimist, but I think my understanding about the project convinced me that this project would not be abandoned and we would definitely get our house, hopefully by end of 2009. I am not in the position to tell you when exactly we can get it, but after several meetings with the developer and correspodent parties, we could see that the handover date is not far from now though there are several issues to be sorted out.
I purchased the 3+1 unit back in December 2006, a month after I registered marriage with my wife, Abbie, and the wedding took place in March 2007. We were told that the house would be ready by end of 2007, we were happy to sign the S&P as we planned to move out of my parents' house after several months staying with them. By then, we could start our small family by adding a new member and more to come. We went for furniture shopping in mid of 2007, we paid 30% deposit to Haus, Lorenzo, Red Apple and several furniture shops for our new house furniture, we thought the house would be ready on time.
As time went by, December 2007 seemed to arrive earlier than we expected because we did not see much progress in the site. The actual showhouse had yet to be ready if I am not mistaken. Haus, Lorenzo and Red Apple called me several times to confirm the delivery of my furniture. I told them off saying that the house would be ready in no less than 6 months time. They said they would call me again after 6 months, I could do nothing but to agree with them.
What about my family planning? Undoubtedly we have to continue to 'suffer', to stay at my parents' place. Abbie doesn't have her own kitchen and study room, I still do not have an entertainment room, we do not have our own baby room too.
December 2008 has gone, December 2009 is a few months ahead. Looking at the timeframe, it has been about 3 years since I signed the S&P. The furniture shops had called me many times and I kept telling them that my house had not ready, I kept postponing the delivery. Lorenzo told me that the dining table that I ordered may get out of stock, but what can I do? Then they offered to allow me to choose from the available models by the time I am ready to collect it. Haus jokingly said that they would charge me 20% more for storage as my sofa was occupying their warehouse.
After two years of waiting for the house, I got really pissed off and frustrated, and I felt helpless too. I realized that frustration would not help any. I decided to change my plan at the end of 2008. My initial plan was to start family planning after I move in to Bayan Villa, but it seems possible to postpone my family planning any further, age won't stop and wait for the house to complete. Therefore I chose to start my family planning without having to get the house, we opt to move in together with our new-born baby by early of next year. By the way, my wife is pregnant now and she is expected to give birth of our baby by December 09, it could be a Christmas boy.
Many have asked me how I can be so optimistic about Bukit Ikhlas. Perhaps you would say I am born optimist, but I think my understanding about the project convinced me that this project would not be abandoned and we would definitely get our house, hopefully by end of 2009. I am not in the position to tell you when exactly we can get it, but after several meetings with the developer and correspodent parties, we could see that the handover date is not far from now though there are several issues to be sorted out.
What I have to say as a pissed-off purchaser
I exhanged comments with a purchaser called "Frustrated man" in Property Malaysia blog. This purchaser got really frustrated like many of you because of the delay.
I had just replied him on his latest comment. While replying him, I had a feeling to share my thoughts with you since there is not much update here due to pending approvals.
Frustrated Man said...
"Sam, looks like you are the only one who talk good about this project and developer. Probably you are not as frustrated as we were. Do you know what additional cost, additional time, finally additional frustration means? Do you know how frustrated to see some other projects completed earlier that this one even when they started later. I have waited for 4 years, 4-long-year! Maybe you are right at one point when you say this project is not abandoned, but is that a license for them to be late so much? If you read the starbiz last week, a project is late if the promised delivery date is 10% late and considered “sick” if it is late for 10 to 30%. So, how do you classify this one?"
I said...
"Frustrated Man, I am not the only one and not the last one who will not talk bad about this project and developer. I bought the property later than you, but I have been waiting for almost 3 years and still waiting for my dream house to be ready. I am not like what you say not frustrated, but if frustration could help to speed up the handover or soothe me, I will surely get as frustrated as you. All I want is to get the house as soon as possible. Looking at the brighter side, actually we have met and talked to the developer, we have met the relevant parties, we know everybody is working all they could on handing over the house to us as soon as possible. We do not want any further delay, so does the developer.
What do you think the developer will get at the end of the day if they are taking so long to get the project completed? What do they gain? They gain nothing but they have to compensate more. What I can see is that the developer is working very hard to get this project done asap, I don’t see any reason why we should talk bad about them when the blame is not on them. By the way, I am not from the developer, I am a purchaser. Because of the delay, all my family plans got affected and I have all the reasons to get frustrated with but I don’t see it is helping any."
I had just replied him on his latest comment. While replying him, I had a feeling to share my thoughts with you since there is not much update here due to pending approvals.
Frustrated Man said...
"Sam, looks like you are the only one who talk good about this project and developer. Probably you are not as frustrated as we were. Do you know what additional cost, additional time, finally additional frustration means? Do you know how frustrated to see some other projects completed earlier that this one even when they started later. I have waited for 4 years, 4-long-year! Maybe you are right at one point when you say this project is not abandoned, but is that a license for them to be late so much? If you read the starbiz last week, a project is late if the promised delivery date is 10% late and considered “sick” if it is late for 10 to 30%. So, how do you classify this one?"
I said...
"Frustrated Man, I am not the only one and not the last one who will not talk bad about this project and developer. I bought the property later than you, but I have been waiting for almost 3 years and still waiting for my dream house to be ready. I am not like what you say not frustrated, but if frustration could help to speed up the handover or soothe me, I will surely get as frustrated as you. All I want is to get the house as soon as possible. Looking at the brighter side, actually we have met and talked to the developer, we have met the relevant parties, we know everybody is working all they could on handing over the house to us as soon as possible. We do not want any further delay, so does the developer.
What do you think the developer will get at the end of the day if they are taking so long to get the project completed? What do they gain? They gain nothing but they have to compensate more. What I can see is that the developer is working very hard to get this project done asap, I don’t see any reason why we should talk bad about them when the blame is not on them. By the way, I am not from the developer, I am a purchaser. Because of the delay, all my family plans got affected and I have all the reasons to get frustrated with but I don’t see it is helping any."
Tuesday, July 21, 2009
Bayan Villa Committee
Some purchasers are suggesting a temporary committee to be formed, so that we have an official group of people to liaise with the developer and the relevant parties, also to discuss / negotiate on issues such as the maintenance fees and so on.
I think this idea is good, but we must get more purchasers' concern and involvement, to enlarge the group. Otherwise, it will be useless. What say you?
I think this idea is good, but we must get more purchasers' concern and involvement, to enlarge the group. Otherwise, it will be useless. What say you?
Tuesday, July 14, 2009
Update: New Access Road (July 14, 2009)
Mr David of Bukit Ikhlas and Mr Ismail of MPSJ had bot responded to us on the submission of the access road report. Basically IKRAM has no objection to the report, but still pending comments from the main member of the OSC panel and JKR.
According to Mr Ismail, there is a meeting with the techincal department to be held on July 20, 2009 at 2:30pm.
I spoke to David recently. He said the construction of the pre-approved access road to Sun Garden is under way though Sun Garden had not agreed to pull down the brick wall. Bukit Ikhlas had met with YB Ean Yong on this issue, and YB had agreed to help us to get this issue sorted out, according to David.
Related News:
1. New Access Road Report Submission
2. Update: New Access Road
According to Mr Ismail, there is a meeting with the techincal department to be held on July 20, 2009 at 2:30pm.
I spoke to David recently. He said the construction of the pre-approved access road to Sun Garden is under way though Sun Garden had not agreed to pull down the brick wall. Bukit Ikhlas had met with YB Ean Yong on this issue, and YB had agreed to help us to get this issue sorted out, according to David.
Related News:
1. New Access Road Report Submission
2. Update: New Access Road
Friday, July 3, 2009
Bayan Villa Maintenance Fee and Bukit Ikhlas Clubhouse
The clubhouse is not part of the SPA, so the maintenance of the clubhouse shall not be included into the Bayan Villa common maintenance. The clubhouse is built next to Bayan Villa, but it is separated from the Bayan Villa townhouse.
The developer is going to build the clubhouse as planned, and the owners of Bayan Villa are given privilege to join the clubhouse as members without any charge. The members are required to pay approximately RM50 monthly for the clubhouse maintenance, which is separated from the Bayan Villa common area maintenance.
Some argued the common area maintenance fee is too high as it does not cover the clubhouse maintenance. The common area maintenance fee will be at RM0.15 per sq ft as stated, without covering the clubhouse maintenance.
As what David commented, once Joint Management Body (JMB) is establish, a committee is appointed to run Bayan Villa. The committee, represented by elected buyers + developer will have to decide on fees to be collected in order to maintain the common areas. He added, once the strata title is issued, a Management Corporation (MC) is set up, and the developer will be out of the picture. The MC committee will decide on issues concerning Bayan Villa.
Basically, how much we have to pay monthly for maintenance is decided by us. Of course, the more we pay, the better we can have our neighbourhood maintained. The well-maintained and the poorly-maintained are actually depending on how much money we pay monthly for the maintenance of the neighbourhood, especially something like Bayan Villa, which was endowed with beautiful landscapes, water features, CCTV, security, etc.
As for the clubhouse, Kenneth of Bukit Ikhlas mentioned that he would love to include the clubhouse into Bayan Villa project and maintained by the maintenance fees collected, but he couldn't do it as it was separated by the previous developer. Kenneth bought over this project from the previous developer to save Bayan Villa, to avoid Bayan Villa to become another abandon project in Selangor.
He stressed that he was looking at possibility of selling membership to neighbouring projects like Jia. This move was to collect sufficient fund for the clubhouse in order to ensure the facilities in it were all well-maintained.
Kenneth added that after the MC had been formed, and a vote was taken by the owners to take the clubhouse in, he would gladly sell the clubhouse to Bukit Ikhlas home owners for a token sum.
The developer is going to build the clubhouse as planned, and the owners of Bayan Villa are given privilege to join the clubhouse as members without any charge. The members are required to pay approximately RM50 monthly for the clubhouse maintenance, which is separated from the Bayan Villa common area maintenance.
Some argued the common area maintenance fee is too high as it does not cover the clubhouse maintenance. The common area maintenance fee will be at RM0.15 per sq ft as stated, without covering the clubhouse maintenance.
As what David commented, once Joint Management Body (JMB) is establish, a committee is appointed to run Bayan Villa. The committee, represented by elected buyers + developer will have to decide on fees to be collected in order to maintain the common areas. He added, once the strata title is issued, a Management Corporation (MC) is set up, and the developer will be out of the picture. The MC committee will decide on issues concerning Bayan Villa.
Basically, how much we have to pay monthly for maintenance is decided by us. Of course, the more we pay, the better we can have our neighbourhood maintained. The well-maintained and the poorly-maintained are actually depending on how much money we pay monthly for the maintenance of the neighbourhood, especially something like Bayan Villa, which was endowed with beautiful landscapes, water features, CCTV, security, etc.
As for the clubhouse, Kenneth of Bukit Ikhlas mentioned that he would love to include the clubhouse into Bayan Villa project and maintained by the maintenance fees collected, but he couldn't do it as it was separated by the previous developer. Kenneth bought over this project from the previous developer to save Bayan Villa, to avoid Bayan Villa to become another abandon project in Selangor.
He stressed that he was looking at possibility of selling membership to neighbouring projects like Jia. This move was to collect sufficient fund for the clubhouse in order to ensure the facilities in it were all well-maintained.
Kenneth added that after the MC had been formed, and a vote was taken by the owners to take the clubhouse in, he would gladly sell the clubhouse to Bukit Ikhlas home owners for a token sum.
Thursday, July 2, 2009
Update: MEX (Maju Expressway)
There was a meeting called by MPSJ, and the developers within 5km radius were invited for feedback. According to David's understanding that if MPSJ can raise sufficient fund, then Selangor state government would want to build it before the federal government.
Are they trying to get credit before the next election? If yes, it is not something bad to us. We will definitely support those who can help us up, right? We can begin to realise the potential of appreciation of Bayan Villa when the MEX interchange is open, perhaps from the current RM300k to RM600k in 3 years time, who know? Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Related News:
1. Meeting - To discuss on opening of an interchange to Maju Expressway
Are they trying to get credit before the next election? If yes, it is not something bad to us. We will definitely support those who can help us up, right? We can begin to realise the potential of appreciation of Bayan Villa when the MEX interchange is open, perhaps from the current RM300k to RM600k in 3 years time, who know? Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Related News:
1. Meeting - To discuss on opening of an interchange to Maju Expressway
Update: New Access Road
According to Mr Ismail of MPSJ, the proposals had been submitted to JKR and TNB for their comments. He would be meeting the developer, JKR and TNB somewhere in July. Mr Ismail also said that he had mentioned about this in the recent OSC meeting. He also informed JKR officer about the report submission. Mr Pooi of MPSJ also followed up this matter closely.
According to David of Bukit Ikhlas, they had a meeting with IKRAM recently, but he did not mention the outcome of it. He added that there were no objection pending comments from JKR, they would be initiating contact with JKR soon.
Related News:
1. New Access Road Report Submission
According to David of Bukit Ikhlas, they had a meeting with IKRAM recently, but he did not mention the outcome of it. He added that there were no objection pending comments from JKR, they would be initiating contact with JKR soon.
Related News:
1. New Access Road Report Submission
Sunday, June 28, 2009
Photo update by Purchaser Au
I have to thank Au for allowing me to share these photos on this blog. Picture description by Au too.
Our future road within SunGarden connecting from Bukit Ikhlas to Jln BS 6-8
Overlooking SunGarden perimeter wall from Jln BS 6-8
The perimeter wall disconnecting SunGarden internal road from Jln BS 6-8
New access road location to be between the banners and the cars parked next to TNB pylon
Undeveloped hillslopes next to Bukit Ikhlas (behind SunGarden)
Houses in SunGarden
Our new access road location
SunGarden perimeter wall blocking the connection of our access road from behind JiaResidence
TNB cables laid - only 1 road yet to be completed, JLn BS 2-5 fronting Court 15, 17 & 19
Our future road within SunGarden connecting from Bukit Ikhlas to Jln BS 6-8
Overlooking SunGarden perimeter wall from Jln BS 6-8
The perimeter wall disconnecting SunGarden internal road from Jln BS 6-8
New access road location to be between the banners and the cars parked next to TNB pylon
Undeveloped hillslopes next to Bukit Ikhlas (behind SunGarden)
Houses in SunGarden
Our new access road location
SunGarden perimeter wall blocking the connection of our access road from behind JiaResidence
TNB cables laid - only 1 road yet to be completed, JLn BS 2-5 fronting Court 15, 17 & 19
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
Meeting - To discuss on opening of an interchange to Maju Expressway
David called me to inform me that MPSJ will be having a meeting tomorrow with the developers near by, to discuss on the opening of an interchange to Maju Expressway (MEX) (formerly known as Kuala Lumpur - Putrajaya Expressway). David of Bukit Ikhlas will be attending the meeting, representing Bukit Ikhlas Development Sdn Bhd.
Hopefully they could bring us good news, where the interchange will be built in the near future for our convenience.
Hopefully they could bring us good news, where the interchange will be built in the near future for our convenience.
Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Update by David of Bukit Ikhlas - June 23, 2009
1. Pengarah Ismail has submitted the relevant report to the statutory authorities, TNB, JKR, IKRAM etc...
2. CCTV to start this week.
3. Suction Tank at Jabatan Pertanian, across Tmn Uni Indah in progress.
4. Access Road - behind Sri Pinang, piliing work completed, roadwork to commence. Foundation work started near retention pond.
5. TNB started coring work from Commercial ctr through (underneath road ) to old guard house area
6. Optional Packages - meeting with Architect this Thursday.
7. Units - both internal & external - ongoing touch up rectification.
2. CCTV to start this week.
3. Suction Tank at Jabatan Pertanian, across Tmn Uni Indah in progress.
4. Access Road - behind Sri Pinang, piliing work completed, roadwork to commence. Foundation work started near retention pond.
5. TNB started coring work from Commercial ctr through (underneath road ) to old guard house area
6. Optional Packages - meeting with Architect this Thursday.
7. Units - both internal & external - ongoing touch up rectification.
Wei Yong's Q & A summary
On behalf of purchaser Wei Yong:
In addition, Wei Yong also said that the dinner meeting on June 16 was very helpful especially to help convince us that they were trying their best to complete the project.
Q. How confirmed are they to deliver the project by this year?
A. This time they are very positive that the project can be delivered latest by end of the year. If the approved access road blocked at the Sun Garden can be reopened, it might be earlier then that.
Q. Why is the landscaping still at progress even though the project should be expected to be completed soon.
A. The landscaping is actually quite fast to complete because the hardscape is there already. The developer do not wish to put up all the trees so soon because they will need extra resource to look after the trees before the completion.
Q. How is the compensation be paid?
A. It will be in cash and the terms is as per SPA.
Q. Who will manage the property when it is completed?
A. The developer might be the management for the first year and the residence of BV will have to form some sort of owners committee and bring in the management to manage the property after that.
Q. How the Club House works?
A. The clubhouse will consist of the common facilities such as swimming pool, badminton court, etc. Currently it is not decided if the clubhouse shuld be opened to the public or only to the BV because if only open to BV residence, if the participation is low, the cost to maintain the facility will be a problem.
In addition, Wei Yong also said that the dinner meeting on June 16 was very helpful especially to help convince us that they were trying their best to complete the project.
Saturday, June 20, 2009
Access to Bayan Villa
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1. The access that we are using now.
2. The proposed access road. I am not sure the exact location, but it is somewhere there.
3. The missing approved access road.
Thursday, June 18, 2009
New Access Road Report Submission
Pengarah of Jabatan Perancangan Bandar, Mr Ismail replied Mr Au's email on June 17. In the email, Mr Ismail said the developer had already submitted 5 copies of report and his side was in the process of forwarding the report to JKR, Jabatan Kejuruteraan MPSJ, and TNB. He added that they would conduct a meeting after that.
Tuesday, June 16, 2009
June 16 Meeting
Dear all,
Below is a list of purchasers who will be attending the meeting:
(1) Sam@Sootho & partner (2)
(3) Wei Yong & partner (4)
(5) Cheah & partner (6)
(7) Lei & brother (8)
(9) Au & partner (10)
(11) Terence & Reene (12)
(13) Jeremy Liau
(14) Calvin leong
(15) Latiff
*Max 15 persons.
By the way, the announcement made here is not good enough to reach you because you do not check it regularily. That's the reason why I am requesting your contact details so that I can text or call you personally to give you the first hand news and announcement, if there is any.
Regards,
Sam
http://bayan-villa.blogspot.com
Below is a list of purchasers who will be attending the meeting:
(1) Sam@Sootho & partner (2)
(3) Wei Yong & partner (4)
(5) Cheah & partner (6)
(7) Lei & brother (8)
(9) Au & partner (10)
(11) Terence & Reene (12)
(13) Jeremy Liau
(14) Calvin leong
(15) Latiff
*Max 15 persons.
By the way, the announcement made here is not good enough to reach you because you do not check it regularily. That's the reason why I am requesting your contact details so that I can text or call you personally to give you the first hand news and announcement, if there is any.
Regards,
Sam
http://bayan-villa.blogspot.com
Monday, June 15, 2009
Conclusion of the meeting on June 14
We did not have a secretary to record the meeting but I can conclude what we have discussed.
Basically the meeting is for us to sit down with the correspondent authorities, to discuss on the issues ahead and the solutions too. The developer have done their very best to make the issues transparent to us, and the local council and Pengarah Jabatan Perancangan Bandar MPSJ have assured us that they are working closely with the developer to make sure all the works are carried out without any problem, to reduce any possible delay during CF application.
The Pengarah, Mr Ismail even asked us to call him or email him directly, to ask him about any submission of plan by the developer and the status of the submission. I would say this comes as something very positive to the purchasers because the local authorities and council are really helping us and the developer.
In my opinion, Bukit Ikhlas developer is a also victim of the delay. They took over the project as the previous owner had difficulty to complete it. In such scenario, the possible outcome would have been the whole project to be abandoned and handed over to the federal government, where the completion is forever, and it will be a real nightmare to the purchasers. Fortunately, the current developer took over the project and are overcoming the obstacles in order to complete the project.
Additionally, the developer reps stated that the only obstacle left now is the access road where a study has been carried out by the professionals, and the proposal of the possible access roads will be submitted to the Pengarah in a couple days. They said multiple meetings with MPSJ had been taken place to get this issue resolved. This has been confirmed and agreed by the Pengarah.
Basically the meeting is for us to sit down with the correspondent authorities, to discuss on the issues ahead and the solutions too. The developer have done their very best to make the issues transparent to us, and the local council and Pengarah Jabatan Perancangan Bandar MPSJ have assured us that they are working closely with the developer to make sure all the works are carried out without any problem, to reduce any possible delay during CF application.
The Pengarah, Mr Ismail even asked us to call him or email him directly, to ask him about any submission of plan by the developer and the status of the submission. I would say this comes as something very positive to the purchasers because the local authorities and council are really helping us and the developer.
In my opinion, Bukit Ikhlas developer is a also victim of the delay. They took over the project as the previous owner had difficulty to complete it. In such scenario, the possible outcome would have been the whole project to be abandoned and handed over to the federal government, where the completion is forever, and it will be a real nightmare to the purchasers. Fortunately, the current developer took over the project and are overcoming the obstacles in order to complete the project.
Additionally, the developer reps stated that the only obstacle left now is the access road where a study has been carried out by the professionals, and the proposal of the possible access roads will be submitted to the Pengarah in a couple days. They said multiple meetings with MPSJ had been taken place to get this issue resolved. This has been confirmed and agreed by the Pengarah.
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Updated Attendant list - Bukit Ikhlas related issues meeting (June 14, 2009 - 12:30pm)
This is the list of those who have confirmed to attend the meeting on Sunday:
- Mr David (Bukit Ikhlas)
- Mr David's colleague (Bukit Ikhlas)
- Mr Ismail (Pengarah Jabatan Perancangan Bandar, MPSJ)
- Mr Pooi (MPSJ Councillor)
- Sam@Sootho (Purchaser)
- Lei (Purchaser)
- Au (Purchaser)
- Au's sister-in-law (Purchaser)
- Wei Yong (Purchaser)
- Cha Foo (Purchaser)
- Cheah (Purchaser)
Seriously we need more purchasers to attend the meeting, to show our concern, to let all parties to know that how badly we are in needing our dream house.
Besides,I have thought of a couple questions to throw in the meeting, something like:
'What else do Bukit Ikhlas need to do and add so that the purchasers can get the CF and move in by end of year 2009?'
Hopefully we can get some tips from the correspondent authorities, and we can offer the 'tips' to Bukit Ikhlas on June 16 meeting.
- Mr David (Bukit Ikhlas)
- Mr David's colleague (Bukit Ikhlas)
- Mr Ismail (Pengarah Jabatan Perancangan Bandar, MPSJ)
- Mr Pooi (MPSJ Councillor)
- Sam@Sootho (Purchaser)
- Lei (Purchaser)
- Au (Purchaser)
- Au's sister-in-law (Purchaser)
- Wei Yong (Purchaser)
- Cha Foo (Purchaser)
- Cheah (Purchaser)
Seriously we need more purchasers to attend the meeting, to show our concern, to let all parties to know that how badly we are in needing our dream house.
Besides,I have thought of a couple questions to throw in the meeting, something like:
'What else do Bukit Ikhlas need to do and add so that the purchasers can get the CF and move in by end of year 2009?'
Hopefully we can get some tips from the correspondent authorities, and we can offer the 'tips' to Bukit Ikhlas on June 16 meeting.
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Saturday, June 13, 2009
Bukit Ikhlas view from Taman Universiti Indah
I have taken a few shots from the new development site of Taman Universiti Indah.
From Kenneth to the purchasers
Refer to Wei Yong's concerns raised in the previous post, Kenneth from Bukit Ikhlas, has immediately answered us with something informative and constructive and are concerning all other purchasers too. I am not going to copy and paste Kenneth's post entirely because I have not got Kenneth's consent to do so. I will report accordingly.
In Kenneth's answer, he stated that currently MPSJ wants them to explore the possibility of adding new access road after JKR took away one of the 2 approved access roads. JKR said that the access road near the current road that is being used to access the site is too close to the traffic lights, so JKR did not allow Bukit Ikhlas to build that road, according to Kenneth. Kenneth said that MPSJ wanted them to explore options to replace that road as they feared that the Sun Garden road could not support the traffic when the whole project is completed.
Kenneth said that they were more than happy to build a second access road and even a third one, and MPSJ just have to approve it.
He said, the Sun Garden road would take 8 weeks to complete, and Bukit Ikhlas wanted to start work on it a lot earlier, but certain parties were trying to get MPSJ to deny that road to them, but this was after they understood that it was the only access that they had left. Kenneth did not mention which parties were involved. Kenneth added that the purchasers can clarify with Mr Ismail of MPSJ and Mr Ismail had approved the road.
Kenneth continued, only Bukit Ikhlas will be involved in building the road and they had awarded contract and work had started on Sun Garden access eventhough technically the road had not been approved yet. Kenneth wanted the purchasers to ask Mr Ismail and the local councillor if that road was already approved in DO (Development Order). Kenneth said that they had been to multiple meetings with MPSJ over this issue. Kenneth stressed that Mr Ismail, the Pengarah Perancangan Bandar of MPSJ had approved the road.
According to Kenneth, the only requirement for them was to explore the possibility of a second access which they had done and were in the midst of submitting it to MPSJ. He said the pumphouse / suction tank was being built now and the construction would be completed as soon as possible.
One of Wei Yong's concerns is on the TNB cables were not installed. Kenneth answered that the cables were laid by TNB contractors, and TNB had delayed in their own organisation though they had been asked by Bukit Ikhlas to lay the cables a long time ago. Kenneth said that Bukit Ikhlas's main contractor could not wait for TNB to lay the cables before laying the tarmac as it would delay their handover of the project to Bukit Ikhlas and consequently they would incur a large penalty. Therefore the tarmac was down and TNB was tearing up after that to lay the cables. Bukit Ikhlas would incur additional cost as they would have to resurface the whole roads, else the road would never be even if they were going to resurface the dug up areas but not the whole roads.
Kenneth said that they were negotiating with the authorities and they were come to a conclusion. He said he has asked Mr David and a Bukit Ikhlas employee to attend the meeting on his (Bukit Ikhlas) behalf just in case any clarification was needed. Kenneath apologized for the delay, they were trying to complete the project in time and within the law.
Additionally, Kenneth said that he was more than happy to have meetings once a month or even fortnightly with a couple purchasers, appointed as liaisons between Bukit Ikhlas and the purchasers, to discuss the progress of the project so that all others purchases could be updated after that.
Finally, Kenneth had asked us to attend the meeting on Sunday and also the one on Tuesday, and they were happy to be held accountable for what they had done and were trying to do so.
In Kenneth's answer, he stated that currently MPSJ wants them to explore the possibility of adding new access road after JKR took away one of the 2 approved access roads. JKR said that the access road near the current road that is being used to access the site is too close to the traffic lights, so JKR did not allow Bukit Ikhlas to build that road, according to Kenneth. Kenneth said that MPSJ wanted them to explore options to replace that road as they feared that the Sun Garden road could not support the traffic when the whole project is completed.
Kenneth said that they were more than happy to build a second access road and even a third one, and MPSJ just have to approve it.
He said, the Sun Garden road would take 8 weeks to complete, and Bukit Ikhlas wanted to start work on it a lot earlier, but certain parties were trying to get MPSJ to deny that road to them, but this was after they understood that it was the only access that they had left. Kenneth did not mention which parties were involved. Kenneth added that the purchasers can clarify with Mr Ismail of MPSJ and Mr Ismail had approved the road.
Kenneth continued, only Bukit Ikhlas will be involved in building the road and they had awarded contract and work had started on Sun Garden access eventhough technically the road had not been approved yet. Kenneth wanted the purchasers to ask Mr Ismail and the local councillor if that road was already approved in DO (Development Order). Kenneth said that they had been to multiple meetings with MPSJ over this issue. Kenneth stressed that Mr Ismail, the Pengarah Perancangan Bandar of MPSJ had approved the road.
According to Kenneth, the only requirement for them was to explore the possibility of a second access which they had done and were in the midst of submitting it to MPSJ. He said the pumphouse / suction tank was being built now and the construction would be completed as soon as possible.
One of Wei Yong's concerns is on the TNB cables were not installed. Kenneth answered that the cables were laid by TNB contractors, and TNB had delayed in their own organisation though they had been asked by Bukit Ikhlas to lay the cables a long time ago. Kenneth said that Bukit Ikhlas's main contractor could not wait for TNB to lay the cables before laying the tarmac as it would delay their handover of the project to Bukit Ikhlas and consequently they would incur a large penalty. Therefore the tarmac was down and TNB was tearing up after that to lay the cables. Bukit Ikhlas would incur additional cost as they would have to resurface the whole roads, else the road would never be even if they were going to resurface the dug up areas but not the whole roads.
Kenneth said that they were negotiating with the authorities and they were come to a conclusion. He said he has asked Mr David and a Bukit Ikhlas employee to attend the meeting on his (Bukit Ikhlas) behalf just in case any clarification was needed. Kenneath apologized for the delay, they were trying to complete the project in time and within the law.
Additionally, Kenneth said that he was more than happy to have meetings once a month or even fortnightly with a couple purchasers, appointed as liaisons between Bukit Ikhlas and the purchasers, to discuss the progress of the project so that all others purchases could be updated after that.
Finally, Kenneth had asked us to attend the meeting on Sunday and also the one on Tuesday, and they were happy to be held accountable for what they had done and were trying to do so.
Wei Yong's concerns
Wei Yong has come up with a few concerns which I think all other purchasers would have wanted to know the answer:
1. Why is there a sudden requirements to add new road, why this wasn't mentioned
when the project started?
2. What is the expected timeline for BI to complete the new roads?
3. Who will be involved in the building of the road? Is it going to be BI alone or another group of contractors that will be deployed. If new contractor, does that means it will goes through another round of project tendering again?
4. Is there anything else that BI still need to do other then the additional roads? We don't want to get new surprises again in the next 3 months when there is suddenly new requirements needs to be meet.
Wei Yong also stated that he had gone to the show room recently and noticed that all the TNB cables were still sitting near the hill there. He was wondering why those had not been installed to all the units if the expected delivery was actually June 2009.
Thankfully, Kenneth from Bukit Ikhlas has answered Wei Yong's questions but we need to clarify it in the meeting on Sunday. I will post up Kenneth's reply to Wei Yong after this entry.
1. Why is there a sudden requirements to add new road, why this wasn't mentioned
when the project started?
2. What is the expected timeline for BI to complete the new roads?
3. Who will be involved in the building of the road? Is it going to be BI alone or another group of contractors that will be deployed. If new contractor, does that means it will goes through another round of project tendering again?
4. Is there anything else that BI still need to do other then the additional roads? We don't want to get new surprises again in the next 3 months when there is suddenly new requirements needs to be meet.
Wei Yong also stated that he had gone to the show room recently and noticed that all the TNB cables were still sitting near the hill there. He was wondering why those had not been installed to all the units if the expected delivery was actually June 2009.
Thankfully, Kenneth from Bukit Ikhlas has answered Wei Yong's questions but we need to clarify it in the meeting on Sunday. I will post up Kenneth's reply to Wei Yong after this entry.
Thursday, June 11, 2009
Bukit Ikhlas related issues meeting (June 14, 2009 - 12:30pm)
Hello all,
Please be informed that there is a meeting to be held on June 14, 2009 (Sunday) 12:30pm at the balai in Taman Universiti Indah. Together with us are the local councilor Mr Pooi, Pengarah Mr Ismail from Jabatan Perancangan Bandar of MPSJ, and you, the purchasers.
FAQ:
1. When is the meeting?
- June 14, 2009 (Sunday), 12:30pm.
2. Where will it be held?
- The balai in Taman Universiti Indah
3. Where is the balai?
- The balai is located opposite to Caltex petrol station in Taman U. Indah. (next to Playing field or Sek Keb Taman U. Indah)
4. Where is Taman Universiti Indah?
- Please refer to http://bayan-villa.blogspot.com/2009/06/bukit-ikhlas-satelite-map.html for the exact location.
5. Who and what parties will be attending?
- Mr Ismail of MPSJ, Mr Pooi of the local councilor, and the purchasers whoever can make it, the more the merrier.
6. Why isn't a rep from Bukit Ikhlas attending?
- Probably the Singaporean bosses are coming over on Tuesday, so they prefer to meet on Tuesday instead. But Tuesday is quite impossible to most of the purchasers as we have to go to work to earn a penny to serve the monthly bank loan interest. I am still working on getting Mr David of Bukit Ikhlas to join us on Sunday. Anyway, I will definitely meet them up on Tuesday and if you can make it too, please join me.
7. What to prepare?
- Any questions and doubts about Bukit Ikhlas project development, do not forget to bring along your brain too.
8. What kind of questions can be asked on Sunday?
- E.g., when is the opening of the interchange to Putrajaya-KL highway, how many access roads are there when we get the CF and where are the access roads, something like that.
9. How much is the entrance?
- Free of charge
10. So far, anyone from the purchasers will be attending?
- Yes, Ms Lei, Mr Au and his sister-in-law, and I have confirmed our attendance for the Sunday meeting.
Last but not least, I hope those who met up in the last meeting such as Tai, Rachel and husband, Ewyong and gf, and others are joining us on this Sunday. I'd appreciate if you can email your contact number to me at sootho AT streamyx DOT com for communicating purpose.
Regards,
Sam
Purchaser (Bayan Villa, Bukti Ikhlas)
Please be informed that there is a meeting to be held on June 14, 2009 (Sunday) 12:30pm at the balai in Taman Universiti Indah. Together with us are the local councilor Mr Pooi, Pengarah Mr Ismail from Jabatan Perancangan Bandar of MPSJ, and you, the purchasers.
FAQ:
1. When is the meeting?
- June 14, 2009 (Sunday), 12:30pm.
2. Where will it be held?
- The balai in Taman Universiti Indah
3. Where is the balai?
- The balai is located opposite to Caltex petrol station in Taman U. Indah. (next to Playing field or Sek Keb Taman U. Indah)
4. Where is Taman Universiti Indah?
- Please refer to http://bayan-villa.blogspot.com/2009/06/bukit-ikhlas-satelite-map.html for the exact location.
5. Who and what parties will be attending?
- Mr Ismail of MPSJ, Mr Pooi of the local councilor, and the purchasers whoever can make it, the more the merrier.
6. Why isn't a rep from Bukit Ikhlas attending?
- Probably the Singaporean bosses are coming over on Tuesday, so they prefer to meet on Tuesday instead. But Tuesday is quite impossible to most of the purchasers as we have to go to work to earn a penny to serve the monthly bank loan interest. I am still working on getting Mr David of Bukit Ikhlas to join us on Sunday. Anyway, I will definitely meet them up on Tuesday and if you can make it too, please join me.
7. What to prepare?
- Any questions and doubts about Bukit Ikhlas project development, do not forget to bring along your brain too.
8. What kind of questions can be asked on Sunday?
- E.g., when is the opening of the interchange to Putrajaya-KL highway, how many access roads are there when we get the CF and where are the access roads, something like that.
9. How much is the entrance?
- Free of charge
10. So far, anyone from the purchasers will be attending?
- Yes, Ms Lei, Mr Au and his sister-in-law, and I have confirmed our attendance for the Sunday meeting.
Last but not least, I hope those who met up in the last meeting such as Tai, Rachel and husband, Ewyong and gf, and others are joining us on this Sunday. I'd appreciate if you can email your contact number to me at sootho AT streamyx DOT com for communicating purpose.
Regards,
Sam
Purchaser (Bayan Villa, Bukti Ikhlas)
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
Meeting with all parties (Local council, developer, house buyers) June 14, 2009, 11am
Lei has called YB and this is her update:
Dear all,
Wish to call a meeting with all the parties (local council, developer and house buyers), tentatively on 14/06/09 (Sunday) at 11am, venue: to be confirmed, hope BI allows us to meet at BI office.
I have called YB on this, he needs to check on his schedule and will revert to us. Not able to get Mr. Poi and I will try on tomorrow, will keep everyone update.
Mr. David, not sure if you are OK with the day and time, we do really hope every parties sit in to iron out the issues, since common objective -- to complete project soonest possible and get CF issuance.
Thanks & regards,
Lei
Tuesday, June 9, 2009
Your Contact Details, please
Purchaser Au has come up with a meeting to be held in this weekend. He has come out with two dates, either 13 or 14 June, 2009.
I have called Lei and informed her about the meeting, she can’t access to internet at work, she is not able to read us until tonight. Since she is the one who dealt with YB Ean Yong and Mr Pooi, the local councillor, she will call them up again and get them to be with us in the upcoming meeting. We suggest Sunday (June 14, 2009) morning is our first choice considering some purchasers may have to work on Saturday. She will come back to us as soon as she has got confirmation from the local councillor. If they can’t make it on this Sunday, alternatively Saturday is also fine for us. If they can’t make it for this weekend, then hopefully they can give us a date.
Also, I have called Mr David of Bukit Ikhlas too. He said he is looking forward to such a meeting and will be joining us if there is any soon.
At the moment, we have to wait for confirmation from the local councillor's side. If they can make it, we will go ahead with the meeting. Else, the meeting will be rescheduled to the date given by them.
Au has prepared one list for those who are able to make it for the meeting to fill in their contacts. Until this point, the meeting is yet to be confirmed. But I think it is good if we can compile a list of purchasers' contacts. If there is any update or special announcement, we are able to reach you at any time. It is not a good idea to expose our contact details here as this blog is open for public. Why don't you email the following details to me so that you can be reached easily? My email address is sootho AT streamyx DOT com, here it goes:
1. Name
2. Contact Number
3. Unit Number
Last but not least, please do not expose your contact details here for the sake of your own safety and peace of mind.
I have called Lei and informed her about the meeting, she can’t access to internet at work, she is not able to read us until tonight. Since she is the one who dealt with YB Ean Yong and Mr Pooi, the local councillor, she will call them up again and get them to be with us in the upcoming meeting. We suggest Sunday (June 14, 2009) morning is our first choice considering some purchasers may have to work on Saturday. She will come back to us as soon as she has got confirmation from the local councillor. If they can’t make it on this Sunday, alternatively Saturday is also fine for us. If they can’t make it for this weekend, then hopefully they can give us a date.
Also, I have called Mr David of Bukit Ikhlas too. He said he is looking forward to such a meeting and will be joining us if there is any soon.
At the moment, we have to wait for confirmation from the local councillor's side. If they can make it, we will go ahead with the meeting. Else, the meeting will be rescheduled to the date given by them.
Au has prepared one list for those who are able to make it for the meeting to fill in their contacts. Until this point, the meeting is yet to be confirmed. But I think it is good if we can compile a list of purchasers' contacts. If there is any update or special announcement, we are able to reach you at any time. It is not a good idea to expose our contact details here as this blog is open for public. Why don't you email the following details to me so that you can be reached easily? My email address is sootho AT streamyx DOT com, here it goes:
1. Name
2. Contact Number
3. Unit Number
Last but not least, please do not expose your contact details here for the sake of your own safety and peace of mind.
Friday, June 5, 2009
The 6/7 June Bukit Ikhlas owner meet up is cancelled
Can I have your attention please? The proposed Bukit Ikhlas owners meet-up on 6/7 June, 2009 has been called off due to insufficient number of attendants. Another date will be proposed soon, and I am looking forward to meeting up my future neighbours before we really move in.
ChaFoo wrote:
"Hi all,
As of now we only have less than 10 who're going to meet-up:
6 June: 7 ppl
7 June: 6 ppl
I suggest to call it off, until other would want to meet up again. Don't think
we can do much if we cannot represent the majority of the owners.
However I am still looking forward for such a meet-up, then sitting and praying
for no more delay >_<"
ChaFoo wrote:
"Hi all,
As of now we only have less than 10 who're going to meet-up:
6 June: 7 ppl
7 June: 6 ppl
I suggest to call it off, until other would want to meet up again. Don't think
we can do much if we cannot represent the majority of the owners.
However I am still looking forward for such a meet-up, then sitting and praying
for no more delay >_<"
Thursday, June 4, 2009
The Bayan Villa purchasers' concerns
Purchaser Au Choon Wai wrote:
"Concerns:
- is it possible to know whether the delay was caused duly by the local authority (i.e. additional road, water tank etc) or just a smoke-screen excuses given by Bukit Ikhlas?
- if the additional requirements are unnecessarily asked by the local authority, internal development of Bukit Ikhlas (i.e. playground, landscaping, cctv etc) should have been completed by now and just waiting for the drawings and paperwork of water tank and additional road to be submitted fpr CF. I have the feeling Bukit Ikhlas would say that the local authority wants everything in order before they can process the paperwork, hence the overall development schedule must in tandem with completion of water tank and additional road.
- can we actually know whether these additional requirements was overlooked by the Bukit Ikhlas or genuinely required to be carried out by local authority at later stage as claimed by Bukit Ikhlas? It's now like whatever asked to do by the local authority, Bukit Ikhlas comply to it whether or not as required by the laws."
Purchaser ewyong wrote:
"I do agree with Choon Wai's points. Based on what we see, the landscaping, etc
should have been completed by now. Even the road leading to the project should
have been completed by now. I also confuse why the so called authority keeps on
adding requirements. Aren't there supposed to be a blueprint agreed by the
authority when the project first started?
Since 2005 when BI is selling this project, the only selling point that they
keeps on pushing is the availability of the so called "Putrajaya-KL Highway"
which at the end doesn't even came true. Now suddenly so many new roads will be
build. Does that means the whole BI plan will change again?"
"Concerns:
- is it possible to know whether the delay was caused duly by the local authority (i.e. additional road, water tank etc) or just a smoke-screen excuses given by Bukit Ikhlas?
- if the additional requirements are unnecessarily asked by the local authority, internal development of Bukit Ikhlas (i.e. playground, landscaping, cctv etc) should have been completed by now and just waiting for the drawings and paperwork of water tank and additional road to be submitted fpr CF. I have the feeling Bukit Ikhlas would say that the local authority wants everything in order before they can process the paperwork, hence the overall development schedule must in tandem with completion of water tank and additional road.
- can we actually know whether these additional requirements was overlooked by the Bukit Ikhlas or genuinely required to be carried out by local authority at later stage as claimed by Bukit Ikhlas? It's now like whatever asked to do by the local authority, Bukit Ikhlas comply to it whether or not as required by the laws."
Purchaser ewyong wrote:
"I do agree with Choon Wai's points. Based on what we see, the landscaping, etc
should have been completed by now. Even the road leading to the project should
have been completed by now. I also confuse why the so called authority keeps on
adding requirements. Aren't there supposed to be a blueprint agreed by the
authority when the project first started?
Since 2005 when BI is selling this project, the only selling point that they
keeps on pushing is the availability of the so called "Putrajaya-KL Highway"
which at the end doesn't even came true. Now suddenly so many new roads will be
build. Does that means the whole BI plan will change again?"
The reservoir - 30 May 2009
A meter has been added. Not much work progressed within a week, but at least something to me.
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One of the completed perimeter wall - 30 May 2009
Honestly, I like grey-white colour matching. It is a sign of contemporary design.
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Wednesday, June 3, 2009
Bukit Ikhlas owner meet up session - 6 / 7 June 2009
There is a meet up initiated by owner ChaFoo. The meet up is set to be held on either 6 or 7 of June 09, a couple days to go from today, venue and time to be confirmed. It is only for the owners to gather and discuss on the delay issue. David might be joining us too.
For those who are interested in joining us for the meet up, please confirm your attendance by putting in your name here, so that ChaFoo can keep a list of possible show-ups.
If there are less than 10 people coming for the meet-up, a new date will be proposed. I agree with ChaFoo that finger pointing is the last thing that we should do, our aim is to get all the problems resolved and get the key as soon as possible.
For those who are interested in joining us for the meet up, please confirm your attendance by putting in your name here, so that ChaFoo can keep a list of possible show-ups.
If there are less than 10 people coming for the meet-up, a new date will be proposed. I agree with ChaFoo that finger pointing is the last thing that we should do, our aim is to get all the problems resolved and get the key as soon as possible.
Tuesday, June 2, 2009
Reply from David Teng, the spokeperson of Bukit Ikhlas
David Teng, the spokeperson from the management of Bukit Ikhlas has replied us, but it doesn't help to boost the progress of the development, delay means delay. Let me summarize David's reply for your reading pleasure.
According to David, the physical construction of the units has been completed, and they have been progressively receiving keys from the main contractors. But he added that they were having issues with the statutories authorities, who keep changing and adding to their (statutories authorities) requirements.
I am not sure if it is good for me to reveal the details of David's reply, especially on the Syabas and MPSJ related matters. Anyway, the purchasers have requested a meeting with Bukit Ikhlas to be arranged as soon as possible.
According to David, the physical construction of the units has been completed, and they have been progressively receiving keys from the main contractors. But he added that they were having issues with the statutories authorities, who keep changing and adding to their (statutories authorities) requirements.
I am not sure if it is good for me to reveal the details of David's reply, especially on the Syabas and MPSJ related matters. Anyway, the purchasers have requested a meeting with Bukit Ikhlas to be arranged as soon as possible.
Friday, May 29, 2009
A meeting with the management
Hello all, I have called David up for a meeting to be arranged in the near future. I do think a meeting with Bukit Ikhlas management is necessary to clear the doubts and guesses. All of us are concerned about the progress and development, and I think David is the right person to answer our questions. Let's look forward to the meeting.
By the way, you can always call David to update the development of the project. David can be reached at:-
03-8942-1120 (office)
012-332-8001 (Cell)
By the way, you can always call David to update the development of the project. David can be reached at:-
03-8942-1120 (office)
012-332-8001 (Cell)
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
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Saturday, May 9, 2009
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Thursday, May 7, 2009
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More Update: 1 May 2009
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My unit number.
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The bitumen-finishing carpark, what a turn off.
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One of the things that you concern the most, the decorated fire-proof door..jpg)
The unfinished perimeter wall.
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This is what I see from my carpark.
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This photo looks as if we can move in tomorrow, what say you?
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Adults restricted area, children only.
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The unfinished staircase.
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The unfinished walkway.
Saturday, May 2, 2009
Update: 1 May 2009
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Bukit Ikhlas Development Sdn. Bhd.
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We are a lot more higher than the JIA Residence.
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The reservoir from another view.
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The perimeter wall.
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The rear view.
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The backdoor.
Monday, April 27, 2009
Interlocking Brick Carpark - Something to miss
This set of photos were taken before the developer decided to replace the interlocking bricks with bitumen for the our carpark, what a compromise. It is really something to miss.
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